tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post2039589962347267681..comments2024-03-24T18:54:00.885-07:00Comments on Dubliner In Deutschland: What next?dubliner in Deutschlandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16531838540641364420noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-90320843365296010692017-02-01T01:35:44.416-08:002017-02-01T01:35:44.416-08:00Thanks for the support! I don't live in Munich...Thanks for the support! I don't live in Munich (I live closer to Stuttgart). That's wonderful that you were able to beat the odds and have two children.dublinerinDeutschlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14804856792598440633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-33027798327001269552017-01-24T05:33:01.906-08:002017-01-24T05:33:01.906-08:00Hi there, Sorry about what you have to go through....Hi there, Sorry about what you have to go through. It is so hard. Just don't give up! I have been told that I will probably never have kids of my own. Now I have 2. :-)<br />Do you happen to live in Munich? If so, I might have a very helpful resource for you that helped me a lot. If you are interested, Let me know. regards. SusanneSusannehttp://www.deutschlandverstehen.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-38487743560809217082017-01-23T02:43:31.453-08:002017-01-23T02:43:31.453-08:00Thanks for your support! :) We are going to hear w...Thanks for your support! :) We are going to hear what they have to say at the other clinic but are leaning strongly towards a 4th and final round this Summer at some stage...In the meantime I've been enjoying having a break from it all and feeling like myself again.dublinerinDeutschlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14804856792598440633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-75512495911207072542017-01-23T02:38:48.187-08:002017-01-23T02:38:48.187-08:00Wow that is a horrible situation in Japan! Those p...Wow that is a horrible situation in Japan! Those poor kids whose parents have abandoned them but they aren't able to even be adopted into a loving family. My heart breaks thinking about that. Yeah, I also feel like adoption is a bit like a calling or something that people need to be feeling 100% about before going down that route. Thanks for your support. I've heard so many mixed things about natural IVF. The doctor at my clinic is very against it, says the odds are too bad, but I have read that for certain women it just works better for them. Or possibly mini/ low dose IVF might be worth trying. dublinerinDeutschlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14804856792598440633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-79072919535874458982017-01-23T02:35:15.434-08:002017-01-23T02:35:15.434-08:00I'm glad to hear you haven't given up hope...I'm glad to hear you haven't given up hope yet. I hope you can find the strength needed to try again. I feel the same thinking about a 4th IVF, I can't bear the thought of any more heartache. But I have to put myself at risk of that to be in with a chance of having a baby, even if it's low. I understand your feelings about adoption too. That must have been really hard on your friends to have come so close only for the birth mother to change her mind last minute. From what I have heard and read adoption is certainly not an easy path to go down. I really hope things work out for you and that you'll be able to have a second child. Hoping that this year will bring good things.x dublinerinDeutschlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14804856792598440633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-61465437784275761612017-01-23T02:33:10.180-08:002017-01-23T02:33:10.180-08:00It's so nice to have this blog and support fro...It's so nice to have this blog and support from others like you who understand how I'm feeling! Thanks for the hugs :)dublinerinDeutschlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14804856792598440633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-54469305843235080942017-01-19T04:43:17.564-08:002017-01-19T04:43:17.564-08:00Hi Dubliner reading Joahn Fauchier's comment a...Hi Dubliner reading Joahn Fauchier's comment above and then your own comment about how strong your desire is, I don't think you're wrong to at least discuss a fourth round, as a kind of "decider". I hope you can have a bit of a break though now to get over the burnout. And don't worry about sounding sad, you can tell the community anything! Hugs to you, Dub overseas.https://differentshoresblog.wordpress.com/https://www.blogger.com/profile/16936131757889957955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-76044032700518879422017-01-18T10:13:26.331-08:002017-01-18T10:13:26.331-08:00Yes, it seems like everyone is having babies again...Yes, it seems like everyone is having babies again on my social media. <br /><br />Good luck on the natural IVF depending on what you decide is right for you. <br /><br />Adoption is also a sticky issue for my husband and I. He doesn't want to adopt, and I don't want to go that route unless both of us are 100% committed to the idea. <br /><br />Plus adoption is pretty tough in Japan since the child cannot be open for adoption unless they become a ward of the state. Parental rights are indefinite, meaning even if they drop a six month old off at an orphanage and never come back, that little baby can never be adopted or put in foster care. It must stay there for the rest of its life because the parent that left it never signed away their rights. <br /><br />90 % of Japanese parents do not give up their parental rights. So that means usually only 10% of the children who need homes can be given a home. <br /><br />It makes me so angry the selfishness of such parents. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10656770582077959796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-48781878201042783622017-01-17T06:40:32.839-08:002017-01-17T06:40:32.839-08:00Thanks for your comments and support! I'm sorr...Thanks for your comments and support! I'm sorry you've been through so much already and for so long. I think I came across your blog from some other blog I follow. It could have been ribbonrx. I'll bring up some of your suggestions at our consultation at the other clinic. I don't think my prolactin was checked but not sure as the immune doctor did a full blood panel and checked a whole bunch of stuff.<br />That's interesting about you not absorbing minerals from food properly. I've definitely heard about some women changing their diet and then getting pregnant which is also why I've been trying to eat much healthier lately. Yea sometimes having a good cry is the best thing, just letting it out. I've also been thinking it makes sense to wait a few months and get my thyroid back on track anyway so that it's optimal before we go again.<br />Not sure why donor eggs are illegal in Germany. There are quite strict rules here on a lot of things. You aren't allowed let any embryos grow past day two that you aren't going to transfer for instance. I think it is partially connected to Germany's history that they are very careful about what they allow or don't allow, since it reminds people of how Hitler wanted to create a perfect race, and some people have concerns about IVF and creating "designer babies". dublinerinDeutschlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14804856792598440633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-70853095256290888122017-01-17T06:35:32.173-08:002017-01-17T06:35:32.173-08:00Yea, burnt out is exactly how I'm feeling. It&...Yea, burnt out is exactly how I'm feeling. It's definitely hard to plan anything since I've no idea what's going to happen. It will be good once we have moved forward one way or the other. I'm sorry you've had such a long journey. Wishing you all all the best going forward!dublinerinDeutschlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14804856792598440633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-8172541800488929482017-01-17T06:34:54.691-08:002017-01-17T06:34:54.691-08:00The longer we have been struggling to have a baby,...The longer we have been struggling to have a baby, the stronger my drive seems to have become. I remember times at the start or us trying where I would sometimes feel unsure about whether I really wanted kids or not but the past year or so it's been a really strong desire. It can be hard when that doesn't match how my husband feels about it. But I have been trying to look at it from his perspective. Watching a wife go through<br />IVF, the physical toll and emotional hardships is not easy plus trying to be the strong supportive shoulder to cry on. I feel like the second opinion at the other clinic should give us some answers and helps us choose how to move forward but I am definitely reaching the end of my limit. At some point you wonder how much more you can put your body through. Doing all the immune treatments just made the last cycle extra consuming as you say and that's why I'm also thinking I can only do it one more time.dublinerinDeutschlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14804856792598440633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-15660088561011539782017-01-15T14:06:51.302-08:002017-01-15T14:06:51.302-08:00I understand the loneliness. All of my friends are...I understand the loneliness. All of my friends are having their second kids. It's not so bad but sometimes people bring babies into the office and then I always end up in tears. Someone asked me if I would adopt and I don't know if I have the strength to go through that. Two of my friends who pursued adopt had the birth mother change her mind at the last minute and keep the baby. I'm like you though, I haven't given up hope yet. I'm trying to mentally prepare myself to start trying again in a few months but just knowing what could be coming (more miscarriages) really makes me anxious. There are only so many times a person can put themselves through that. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14233574908888669866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-81442214151442228842017-01-15T12:15:09.345-08:002017-01-15T12:15:09.345-08:00Thanks Christina. I'm sorry to hear you've...Thanks Christina. I'm sorry to hear you've also been having a really difficult time. Wishing you all the best moving forward, whatever you decide to do. Hoping 2017 will bring good things for us all!dubliner in Deutschlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16531838540641364420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-14437295074590083772017-01-15T11:45:37.403-08:002017-01-15T11:45:37.403-08:00Dear Dubliner, please do not worry about sounding ...Dear Dubliner, please do not worry about sounding too sad. Your feelings are very understandable and normal. This is not an easy place to be. Hugs across the border and all my best wishes!Elainehttp://www.elaineok.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-61227659550487904822017-01-15T06:46:00.982-08:002017-01-15T06:46:00.982-08:00I didn't know donor eggs were illegal in Germa...I didn't know donor eggs were illegal in Germany. Interesting. Do you know why that is? I guess I can Google it.<br /><br />Have you gotten prolactin checked?delayedbutnotdeniedbloghttps://delayedbutnotdeniedblog.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-78561027602217005972017-01-15T06:43:53.424-08:002017-01-15T06:43:53.424-08:00Rereading your blog I wanted to expand on my comme...Rereading your blog I wanted to expand on my comments. I can totally relate to you on pregnancy announcements. That's why I stopped Facebook years ago. It makes things easier emotionally. I hear you on crying when you learn someone i pregnant or just gave birth. I know that feeling oh too well. When we were on a road trip during New Year's Eve, my husband told me in the car that one of the fellow participants is pregnant. I immediately started crying. "What is wrong with me?" and cried it out for a good 30 minutes. So I'm glad you are crying it out, it's healthy. It's OK to have feelings. My due date for my late twins' is coming up in February. I, too, had an IVF in March and if it would've worked out I would already be holding our bundle(s) of joy. I totally feel you on others say "adoption" because they don't believe someone will get pregnant. That's so insensitive and wrong. God has the final say. Only God knows why some people get pregnant easily and others do not. I hope I make it to heaven so I can meet God and ask him this question. I also hope to make it to heaven to meet our two embryos in heaven. About the thyroid: during IVF #2 I was within the 10 weeks of a new medication change. Looking back, I would've postponed IVF #2 because of my thyroid and body was getting used to the medication change. I'm glad you are taking time to make sure your thyroid is optimal for you.delayedbutnotdeniedbloghttps://delayedbutnotdeniedblog.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-72856527548422744162017-01-15T05:07:42.978-08:002017-01-15T05:07:42.978-08:00I hear you completely. I was really burnt out afte...I hear you completely. I was really burnt out after our last miscarriage. As we took time to heal and gear up for IVF 5 I realized that even though we can talk in abstract terms about "the future" we can only take one step at a time with regard to treatment. I never thought I'd be talking about a fifth IVF cycle yet here we are. So it's one foot in front of the other taking small, manageable steps that will hopefully lead us to our family.<br /><br />You are completely justified in feeling disappointed. And it's totally normally to still feel hopeful - let that be your guide. Good luck in 2017!jewishivfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08173211402843289616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-80321020939655412542017-01-15T03:03:51.880-08:002017-01-15T03:03:51.880-08:00Thanks! Yea I'm really excited about going to ...Thanks! Yea I'm really excited about going to the new clinic for a different opinion and fresh start! That's a good idea to take up woodwork. Definitely any kind of distraction is nice. I'm going to book some nice trips for 2017 to have some things to look forward to xdubliner in Deutschlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16531838540641364420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-48196573875425787792017-01-13T19:37:01.924-08:002017-01-13T19:37:01.924-08:00It is so hard to be faced with failed cycles and n...It is so hard to be faced with failed cycles and no big reasons why. I can understand being exhausted from how consuming everything was with the intralipids and extra pieces this time. I am glad your insurance pays for another round, that takes some pressure off financially. Bryce found it very hard to watch me go through the physical demands of IVF, so I think it is hard for husbands to see the toll. I don't at all blame you for your thoughts on donor material or adoption -- like you said, each couple has their own path, their own sense of ENOUGH. I wish I'd hit my ENOUGH sooner than I did. We had a conversation about adoption after not being chosen again for an opportunity, and Bryce was like, "I think you could go on forever, hoping for this child." Well, maybe not forever but the drive is much stronger for me at this point -- it's hard to not be totally synchronized this way. I wish you the best of luck and think it's a great idea to run supplements by your doctor and also to try to just live life. It must be hard to think about where you'd be if previous cycles worked out, but I also like that you look at opportunities lost if that was the case -- like your lovely Christmas you had. It's all a balance. I'm sorry you're in this place, it's not a fun place to be. I'll be thinking of you and hoping for the best as you explore your next options. Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15868505568965284742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-77977976380367644822017-01-12T05:15:19.326-08:002017-01-12T05:15:19.326-08:00About the DHEA and royal jelly - you are smart to ...About the DHEA and royal jelly - you are smart to run it by your doc first because those two supplements affect hormones. My DHEA and DHEA-S used be sky-high so it wouldn't make sense to supplement. Royal Jelly, i'm not a fan. I've used it on and off for almost 4 years and it didn't really do anything for me. My second IVF had 8 follicles and five were retrieved. I think I was over suppressed for that cycle. Also, I just had mineral testing and it turns out I have to work on improving minerals ratios. I likewise had stool testing. It turns out I'm not absorbing minerals from my food so I'm currently taking antibiotics to treat a gut infection. My adrenals, measured by sodium:magnesium ratio, were really low. The sodium(Na):potassium(K) ratio was just under the ideal 2.5 at 2.0. I'm told Na:K is the vitality ratio and that it's hard to get pregnant under 2.5. You may want to check out mineral balancing.Delayed But Not Denied Bloghttps://delayedbutnotdeniedblog.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-64019857111792809842017-01-12T05:08:34.738-08:002017-01-12T05:08:34.738-08:00I totally relate to what you write when you talk a...I totally relate to what you write when you talk about due dates from previous IVFs and postponing travel over possible fertility treatments. Just know that you are one month closer to meeting your little ones and that your experience and testimony will empower others on this very hard sojourn. I write sojourn instead of journey because it's only temporary. Some people's temporary is a year. So far, mine is 4 years and three months deep. The due date for my late twins is coming up in early February. I see you are on blogspot, how did you find my Wordpress blog may i ask? I'm glad you stopped by my blog and I look forward to following your blog. -S. from https://Delayedbutnotdeniedblog.wordpress.com. (I can't figure out how to comment under my handle.)Delayed But Not Denied Bloghttps://delayedbutnotdeniedblog.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-15365553853406340382017-01-11T07:39:58.083-08:002017-01-11T07:39:58.083-08:00I completely understand everything you are feeling...I completely understand everything you are feeling. After our second round miscarriage we haven't been able to move on. Adoption doesn't completely suit us either. We are open to embryo adoption. We kind of thought, either both of us or neither of us DNA wise. I like your idea of starting a new hobby and focusing on something else for a while. It sounds splendid. I think taking care of yourself is just what you need right now. Hopefully the new clinic gives you options. Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12984158700104992328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-77881832793648512682017-01-11T00:38:07.404-08:002017-01-11T00:38:07.404-08:00This is milliemeg by the way. I don't know why...This is milliemeg by the way. I don't know why my name comes up as anonymous! Milliemeghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536528606579026574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-29818806118718884392017-01-11T00:37:06.368-08:002017-01-11T00:37:06.368-08:00I think you're doing amazingly well. The new c...I think you're doing amazingly well. The new clinic sounds great - sometimes a different perspective can be all you need. I think it's a great idea to start doing some "normal" non-baby stuff too. I've been thinking of taking up woodwork to give myself a distraction. A few trips abroad could do you the world of good. XxMilliemeghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536528606579026574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6852337025953891596.post-68014467732761915842017-01-10T10:34:29.805-08:002017-01-10T10:34:29.805-08:00Thanks so much! I really hope I'll have a simi...Thanks so much! I really hope I'll have a similar outcome! I find it very interesting that it was a natural/mini IVF cycle that worked for you in the end. dubliner in Deutschlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16531838540641364420noreply@blogger.com